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		<title>By: Boy in the Bands &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What to do for Easter</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2318</link>
		<author>Boy in the Bands &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What to do for Easter</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] second is the stickier to define, and I mention it because of the running comment at Surviving the Workday about not getting your needs met at church. (About which I&#8217;m not even close to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] second is the stickier to define, and I mention it because of the running comment at Surviving the Workday about not getting your needs met at church. (About which I&#8217;m not even close to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: h sofia</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2279</link>
		<author>h sofia</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since we got married, Mike and I have been getting these snazzy giant postcards from nearby churches. Also, I'm pretty sure one of our evangelical friends gave our name and address to their church, City Bible, which has a couple of "branches" around town.

I think Mike and I are going to go visit one of the &lt;a href="http://www.citybiblechurch.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;City Bible churches near us&lt;/a&gt;. We both like to keep abreast of what evangelicals are saying. Also, admittedly, I'm intrigued by their multicultural programming and services. Mike's been to one of the CBs before and says it wa *very diverse.* 

But I know I like my UUism. It doesn't feel as though we have nearly the passion or daily presence ... thinking of ways to do that in a culture of self-reliance..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since we got married, Mike and I have been getting these snazzy giant postcards from nearby churches. Also, I&#8217;m pretty sure one of our evangelical friends gave our name and address to their church, City Bible, which has a couple of &#8220;branches&#8221; around town.</p>
<p>I think Mike and I are going to go visit one of the <a href="http://www.citybiblechurch.org/" rel="nofollow">City Bible churches near us</a>. We both like to keep abreast of what evangelicals are saying. Also, admittedly, I&#8217;m intrigued by their multicultural programming and services. Mike&#8217;s been to one of the CBs before and says it wa *very diverse.* </p>
<p>But I know I like my UUism. It doesn&#8217;t feel as though we have nearly the passion or daily presence &#8230; thinking of ways to do that in a culture of self-reliance..</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2277</link>
		<author>Terri</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2277</guid>
		<description>This part of your post really resonates with me...

As you write:

"I’m interested in a UU Bible study. I’m interested in a prayer group to deepen my practice. I’m interested in a meditation group. I’m interested in social justice work."

II am interested in exactly all the same things! The difference it sounds though is that I have FOUND all those things at the UU church I first started with, First Unitarian of Rochester (well, except the bible study...but i hear talk of someone starting that...).  But maybe that's why they're growing...(that particular church made up 10% of all of the UUA's growth last year, i think...)    

So many UU churches fall empty in the spirituality department. Nearly everyone I know at my current UU church supplements their spirituality in some way... Why isn't UUism meeting our spiritual needs?  is, I think, a core question we need to ask.    

As for the "What's in it for me?" thing... When I moved away from Rochester, and talked about how disappointed I was in the availble UU options, and how my solution was to become a leader and "give, give, give",  I remember a UU minister saying to me-- "Yes, but you need to be fed too."  It is one of the paradoxes, I guess, but to serve on empty means to serve from the ego, rather than a place of love.  Religion should fill us so that we can then give from the heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This part of your post really resonates with me&#8230;</p>
<p>As you write:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m interested in a UU Bible study. I’m interested in a prayer group to deepen my practice. I’m interested in a meditation group. I’m interested in social justice work.&#8221;</p>
<p>II am interested in exactly all the same things! The difference it sounds though is that I have FOUND all those things at the UU church I first started with, First Unitarian of Rochester (well, except the bible study&#8230;but i hear talk of someone starting that&#8230;).  But maybe that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re growing&#8230;(that particular church made up 10% of all of the UUA&#8217;s growth last year, i think&#8230;)    </p>
<p>So many UU churches fall empty in the spirituality department. Nearly everyone I know at my current UU church supplements their spirituality in some way&#8230; Why isn&#8217;t UUism meeting our spiritual needs?  is, I think, a core question we need to ask.    </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;What&#8217;s in it for me?&#8221; thing&#8230; When I moved away from Rochester, and talked about how disappointed I was in the availble UU options, and how my solution was to become a leader and &#8220;give, give, give&#8221;,  I remember a UU minister saying to me&#8211; &#8220;Yes, but you need to be fed too.&#8221;  It is one of the paradoxes, I guess, but to serve on empty means to serve from the ego, rather than a place of love.  Religion should fill us so that we can then give from the heart.</p>
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		<title>By: GhostGirl</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2276</link>
		<author>GhostGirl</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2276</guid>
		<description>It could be either A) Much like my church growing up, which was non-denominational, conservative, and evangelical, and as you know very difficult in many ways but in retrospect had something to teach or B) non-denominational, conservative, and evangelical, and used to be like my church growing up but is realizing that just isn't drawing the crowds anymore so they had better address the New Christian Spirit so they hire a younger minister and actually listen to him or her.

Either way, I think you will learn something, as you have a critical enough mind to come away with what you need and discard the rest. I say, go for it. What could it hurt?

If you come back praising Jesus and talking about how I'm going to hell though, I'm outta here. ;-)

[Ms. Theologian says in response, Praise Jesus! However, my tolerance for places that aren't lgbt friendly is 0 at this point in my life. I know enough not to attend. However, if a Unitarian Universalist church wanted to take on those topics....]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be either A) Much like my church growing up, which was non-denominational, conservative, and evangelical, and as you know very difficult in many ways but in retrospect had something to teach or B) non-denominational, conservative, and evangelical, and used to be like my church growing up but is realizing that just isn&#8217;t drawing the crowds anymore so they had better address the New Christian Spirit so they hire a younger minister and actually listen to him or her.</p>
<p>Either way, I think you will learn something, as you have a critical enough mind to come away with what you need and discard the rest. I say, go for it. What could it hurt?</p>
<p>If you come back praising Jesus and talking about how I&#8217;m going to hell though, I&#8217;m outta here. <img src='http://survivingtheworkday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[Ms. Theologian says in response, Praise Jesus! However, my tolerance for places that aren&#8217;t lgbt friendly is 0 at this point in my life. I know enough not to attend. However, if a Unitarian Universalist church wanted to take on those topics&#8230;.]</p>
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		<title>By: Lizard Eater</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2274</link>
		<author>Lizard Eater</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, my sister!

The Husband and I got into watching "Bishop T.D. Jakes" on tv.  Practical to the nth degree, even to the point of explaining how much you should budget for a mortgage and if a house costs more than that, "don't say you're going to 'step out in faith.'"

I like practical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, my sister!</p>
<p>The Husband and I got into watching &#8220;Bishop T.D. Jakes&#8221; on tv.  Practical to the nth degree, even to the point of explaining how much you should budget for a mortgage and if a house costs more than that, &#8220;don&#8217;t say you&#8217;re going to &#8217;step out in faith.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I like practical.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Theologian</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2267</link>
		<author>Ms. Theologian</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2267</guid>
		<description>I might just have to write the sermons myself. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might just have to write the sermons myself. <img src='http://survivingtheworkday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: maryanne</title>
		<link>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2266</link>
		<author>maryanne</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/03/15/lessons-from-a-local-church/#comment-2266</guid>
		<description>I hear you, but I'm surprised you would think you could get much (aside from social interaction, which you seem not to want) out of those 'practical' lectures. I should think you'd already know everything that might be said and then some.

but I guess that means I'm being elitist on your behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, but I&#8217;m surprised you would think you could get much (aside from social interaction, which you seem not to want) out of those &#8216;practical&#8217; lectures. I should think you&#8217;d already know everything that might be said and then some.</p>
<p>but I guess that means I&#8217;m being elitist on your behalf.</p>
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