Comments on: How It Feels to See Second Wave Feminism Lose Moral Integrity http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/ Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:32:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: earthbound spirit http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1624 earthbound spirit Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:46:00 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1624 Ms. T - If this is what the second wave feminists are saying today they're not speaking for me, either. Ms. T - If this is what the second wave feminists are saying today they’re not speaking for me, either.

]]> By: Comrade Kevin http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1620 Comrade Kevin Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:15:55 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1620 When you become a parody and a punchline to your original high minded ideals, it's time to change. When you become a parody and a punchline to your original high minded ideals, it’s time to change.

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1617 Ms. Theologian Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:59:49 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1617 I suppose I am technically in between too earthbound spirit. I just wish that second wave feminist thinking could really realize some of its weaknesses rather than trying to speak for everyone. That drives me nuts. I suppose I am technically in between too earthbound spirit. I just wish that second wave feminist thinking could really realize some of its weaknesses rather than trying to speak for everyone. That drives me nuts.

]]> By: earthbound spirit http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1613 earthbound spirit Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:45:26 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1613 Speaking as a second-wave feminist (well, sort of - I'm in between generations), I view Steinem's & Pappas' pronouncements as out of touch with reality. I feel betrayed by a lot of things (the Patriot Act for starters), but not by Kennedy's endorsement of Obama. Speaking as a second-wave feminist (well, sort of - I’m in between generations), I view Steinem’s & Pappas’ pronouncements as out of touch with reality. I feel betrayed by a lot of things (the Patriot Act for starters), but not by Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama.

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1605 Ms. Theologian Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:51:55 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1605 LOL at Bamalot. And Shelby, I just noticed when reading your comment that their hyperbole on speaking for all women everywhere is just the same stuff of most second wave feminist statements (my upper-middle class white straight woman point of view is everyones!!!) LOL at Bamalot.

And Shelby, I just noticed when reading your comment that their hyperbole on speaking for all women everywhere is just the same stuff of most second wave feminist statements (my upper-middle class white straight woman point of view is everyones!!!)

]]> By: Shelby Meyerhoff http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1602 Shelby Meyerhoff Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:24:26 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1602 I haven't read the rest of the press release but I almost burst out laughing at "Ultimate Betrayal Felt by Women Everywhere"! I haven’t read the rest of the press release but I almost burst out laughing at “Ultimate Betrayal Felt by Women Everywhere”!

]]> By: Charlie Talbert http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1599 Charlie Talbert Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:02:05 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1599 The NOW-New York statement is so bad in so many ways. I can’t imagine that the organization actually supports it. I wonder if it was just the rant of a spokeswoman who should be moved into another position? On a lighter note, I saw flashed on a TV screen this morning at my workout place a newspaper front page picture of Ted Kennedy giving his endorsement of Barack, with the headline above in gigantic letters “BAMALOT!” The NOW-New York statement is so bad in so many ways. I can’t imagine that the organization actually supports it. I wonder if it was just the rant of a spokeswoman who should be moved into another position?

On a lighter note, I saw flashed on a TV screen this morning at my workout place a newspaper front page picture of Ted Kennedy giving his endorsement of Barack, with the headline above in gigantic letters “BAMALOT!”

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1593 Ms. Theologian Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:25:51 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1593 @LizardEater....some relief though I fear the Steinem editorial blew it for me in terms of integrity. @h sofia....Kennedy endorsed Obama in a passing the Kennedy torch sort of way. And there is a Kennedy-Clinton friendship that goes back decades, so no doubt the "betrayal" felt yesterday was by H. Clinton. Apparently Kennedy was sickened by B. Clinton's behavior in S.C., though I'm sure there are other issues with the endorsement. @LizardEater….some relief though I fear the Steinem editorial blew it for me in terms of integrity.

@h sofia….Kennedy endorsed Obama in a passing the Kennedy torch sort of way. And there is a Kennedy-Clinton friendship that goes back decades, so no doubt the “betrayal” felt yesterday was by H. Clinton. Apparently Kennedy was sickened by B. Clinton’s behavior in S.C., though I’m sure there are other issues with the endorsement.

]]> By: h sofia http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1592 h sofia Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:21:06 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1592 How stupid. And who is Kennedy supporting, by the way? How stupid. And who is Kennedy supporting, by the way?

]]> By: Lizard Eater http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1591 Lizard Eater Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:59:00 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2008/01/29/how-it-feels-to-see-second-wave-feminism-lose-some-moral-integrity/#comment-1591 Evidently they heard the screaming. From the front page of both NOW-NY's and NOW's websites: NOW's Response to Sen. Kennedy's Endorsement Statement of NOW President Kim Gandy January 28, 2008 The National Organization for Women has enormous respect and admiration for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D- Mass.). For decades Sen. Kennedy has been a friend of NOW, and a leader and fighter for women's civil and reproductive rights, and his record shows that. Though the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee has proudly endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton for president, we respect Sen. Kennedy's endorsement. We continue to encourage women everywhere to express their opinions and exercise their right to vote. http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html Evidently they heard the screaming. From the front page of both NOW-NY’s and NOW’s websites:

NOW’s Response to Sen. Kennedy’s Endorsement

Statement of NOW President Kim Gandy

January 28, 2008

The National Organization for Women has enormous respect and admiration for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D- Mass.). For decades Sen. Kennedy has been a friend of NOW, and a leader and fighter for women’s civil and reproductive rights, and his record shows that.

Though the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee has proudly endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton for president, we respect Sen. Kennedy’s endorsement. We continue to encourage women everywhere to express their opinions and exercise their right to vote.

http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html

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