Comments on: Ms. Theologian critiques the culture of overtime http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/ news, notes, & tips about spirituality and religion in the workplace Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:43:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: GhostGirl http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-905 GhostGirl Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:57:30 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-905 Yeah, I'm going for option A. My company sort of has a culture of OT. Some people do it, some people don't. My boss is on the "don't" side. Several people I manage are on the voluntary "do" side. The odd part is, it's the people with families. I made it clear to my people that it wasn't expected, and that I wouldn't be doing it either unless it was necessary--and that if it was constantly necessary, we needed to hire more people. It's one thing if you are passionate and want to do it, but the passionate ones should never be given the ability to create guilt for those who are more passionate about their family time. That's a management issue. Yeah, I’m going for option A.

My company sort of has a culture of OT. Some people do it, some people don’t. My boss is on the “don’t” side. Several people I manage are on the voluntary “do” side. The odd part is, it’s the people with families.

I made it clear to my people that it wasn’t expected, and that I wouldn’t be doing it either unless it was necessary–and that if it was constantly necessary, we needed to hire more people.

It’s one thing if you are passionate and want to do it, but the passionate ones should never be given the ability to create guilt for those who are more passionate about their family time. That’s a management issue.

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-901 Ms. Theologian Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:20 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-901 That's a good point. The "good work is its own reward" plays prominently in nonprofits, and it is often used to undervalue work that women do. I'm thinking of my mom's work as a social worker, in particular. That’s a good point. The “good work is its own reward” plays prominently in nonprofits, and it is often used to undervalue work that women do. I’m thinking of my mom’s work as a social worker, in particular.

]]> By: h sofia http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-899 h sofia Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:32:26 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-899 It's really sad about non profits. I agree with Ms T - big business strategy + non profit passion. And, I think there is another mentality at play: <i>Good work/making the world better is its own reward</i>. Umm, sure, that's true. But I think that's largely used to undervalue work that could be construed as nurturing (e.g. much of the work of women). At least, that's what Riane Eisler says. If it were me in this position, I'd do D (minus the first sentence) and E. It’s really sad about non profits. I agree with Ms T - big business strategy + non profit passion. And, I think there is another mentality at play: Good work/making the world better is its own reward. Umm, sure, that’s true. But I think that’s largely used to undervalue work that could be construed as nurturing (e.g. much of the work of women). At least, that’s what Riane Eisler says.

If it were me in this position, I’d do D (minus the first sentence) and E.

]]> By: Ms. Theologian http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-898 Ms. Theologian Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:31:02 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-898 You're too funny. I have to admit my instinct is to run as well, but I've worked in four (five?) nonprofits. I've been trying to figure out if the non-profit overtime is a result of using big business strategies (or a result of non-profit passion). Possibly both. You’re too funny. I have to admit my instinct is to run as well, but I’ve worked in four (five?) nonprofits.

I’ve been trying to figure out if the non-profit overtime is a result of using big business strategies (or a result of non-profit passion). Possibly both.

]]> By: Lizard Eater http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-897 Lizard Eater Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:21:30 +0000 http://survivingtheworkday.com/2007/12/14/ms-theologian-critiques-the-culture-of-overtime/#comment-897 Run, run, run for the hills. From my experience, whatever is said in the interview about overtime is 50% of how much overtime you'll be expected to do. And it's not just nonprofits. Big Bidness has the opinion that they own you, 24/7, and that it's a special treat when they allow you to go home or have a non-work weekend. Grump. Run, run, run for the hills. From my experience, whatever is said in the interview about overtime is 50% of how much overtime you’ll be expected to do.

And it’s not just nonprofits. Big Bidness has the opinion that they own you, 24/7, and that it’s a special treat when they allow you to go home or have a non-work weekend.

Grump.

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